Aldonza Ramirez

Aldonza Ramirez

Female

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  • Name Aldonza Ramirez  
    Gender Female 
    Person ID I16158  Young Kent Ancestors
    Last Modified 14 Apr 2018 

    Family Arias Diaz de Asturias 
    Children 
     1. Maria Arias de Asturias
    Last Modified 20 Mar 2022 
    Family ID F4934  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • There were significant links missing out of Theaustralian.com.au article and perhaps even a misapplication of one of those listed. A more complete track back, beginning with Richard of Conisburgh, Duke of Cambridge runs something like the below list of ancestor. However, many sources from the Dark Ages are disputed or unclear, so it is not possible to make any absolute statements.
      Richard of Conisburgh, Earl of Cambridge - son of
      Isabella Perez of Castille - daughter of
      Maria Juana de Padilla - daughter of
      Maria Fernandez de Henestrosa - daughter of
      Aldonza Ramirez de Cifontes - daughter of
      Aldonza Gonsalez Giron - daughter of
      Sancha Rodriguez de Lara - daughter of
      Rodrigo Rodriguez de Lara - son of
      Sancha Alfonsez, Infanta of Castile - daughter of
      Zaida (aka Isabella) - daughter of
      Al-Mu'tamid ibn Abbad, King of Seville - son of
      Abbad II al-Mu'tadid, King of Seville - son of
      Abu al-Qasim Muhammad ibn Abbad, King of Seville - son of
      Ismail ibn Qarais - son of
      Qarais ibn Abbad - son of
      Abbad ibn Amr - son of
      Amr ibn Aslan - son of
      Aslan ibn Amr - son of
      Amr ibn Itlaf - son of
      Itlaf ibn Na'im - son of
      Na'im II al-Lakhmi - son of
      Na'im al-Lakhmi - son of
      Zahra bint Husayn - daughter of
      Husayn ibn Hasan - son of
      Hasan ibn Ali - son of
      Fatima - daughter of
      Muhammad (pbuh)
      There is a great deal of confusion, and thus suspicion, that Zaida was NOT the daughter of Al-Mu'tamid ibn Abbad, King of Seville but instead was his daughter-in-law. If this is fact, then the entire pedigree from Zaida back to Mohammad collapses and is of no consequence. Two sources are available that focus on this specific question: 1) Montaner Frutos, Alberto (2005). "La mora Zaida, entre historia y leyenda (con una reflexión sobre la técnica historiográfica alfonsí)". Historicist Essays on Hispano-Medieval Narrative. In Memory of Roger M. Walker (in Spanish). London: Maney Publishing for the MHRA (Publications of the Modern Humanities Research Association, 16. pp. 272–352. ISBN 1-904350-31-3; and, 2) Salazar y Acha, Jaime de (2007). "De nuevo sobre la mora Zaida". Hidalguía. La revista de genealogía, nobleza y armas (in Spanish). Madrid: Asociación de hidalgos de fuero de España (321, March–April). ISBN 9788495215291. ISSN 0018-1285. Myself, I have no opinion one way or the other, other than to label it a suspicious pedigree at the point of Zaida.

      The key connections are these:

      In 1023, Abu al-Qasim Muhammad ibn Abbad became the ruler of Seville in al-Andalus. He was formerly a qadi (judge) appointed by the Caliph of Cordoba, but seized power and formed his own dynasty, the Abbadids. He was a descendant of Muhammad through his daughter Fatima and grandson Hasan ibn Ali.

      In 1091 the Almoravids from Morocco invaded Muslim Spain, and his grandson Al-Mu'tamid ibn Abbad lost his throne. His daughter Zaida fled north and took refuge at the court of King Alfonso VI of Leon. She became his mistress - the king was already married, but his wife was bedridden with illness. Zaida later converted to Christianity, took the baptismal name Isabella and - once the king's previous wife died - married him, bearing him three children that we know of.

      In 1352 Maria de Padilla, a descendant of Zaida and Alfonso, became the mistress of King Peter 'the Cruel' of Castille. They had four children - two of the daughters married sons of King Edward III of England. It is from Isabella of Castille and Edmund, Duke of York that the current Queen of the UK is descended.